Meeting date: 21 feb 2006 Members (asterisk for those attending): *Arpad Murayni, *Bob Ross, Todd Westerhoff, *Mike LaBonte, Paul Fernando, Barry Katz, *Walter Katz, Ken Willis, Ian Dodd ------------- Review of ARs: AR: Mike make the website more outsider-friendly - TBD AR: Todd contact Cadence about a new representative - no report AR: Mike finish documentation examples. - in progress AR: Todd contact Ian - no report AR: Bob contact Gary Pratt - Done - Gary can't fill in for Ian - Walter sent an email - Out of Office ------------- Mentor AMS models for RocketIO and PCI-X - DesignCon discussion with Walter and Gary Pratt - Walter asked for RocketIO and PCI-X VHDL models - One is released already, the other coming soon - Buffers are actually very simple, probably easy to convert - Walter built a template in native ISPICE4 - Invented I/V curves, etc. based on descriptions given - Sent to Arpad - Format is neutral, not any particular language - Includes macro for trigerrable PWL - used for pullup/pulldown switching - able to reverse if overclocked - Pre-emphasis buffer not created cadence-style (main+inv. secondary) - Arpad hesitant to create special macro element for this AR: Arpad look at Walter's model Triggerable sources - Kai from Synopsys says there is an obscure way to create triggered sources in HSPICE - Not sure how to do it in Verilog-A, but Gary Pratt says it can be done - Are IBIS waveforms needed for serdes buffers? - switching may be linear, but how to determine pullup/pulldown turnoff/turnon separation? - HSPICE has trouble with rwf & fwf parameters DesignCon VHDL simulation paper - Micron memory testcase - I/V described as polynomials - Contains VHDL core code to send bit patterns - DDR1 interface only, don't have VHDL for DDR2 - Looked pretty good Mentor has released Intel Broadwater VHDL-AMS models - pre-emphasis serdes buffer - IBIS format - both [Driver Schedule] and [External Model] - NDA required DesignCon had interesting equalization papers - Equalization is an important problem to solve - It may be quite complicated - Good opportunity for macro models - May change the way simulations are scheduled, or the combination of things analyzed in one simulation - Need to handle feedback designs, where the receiver reports quality data back to the transmitter Should buffer macros be strength scalable? - How to scale waveforms - probably less scaling there than I/V - HSPICE does it, but issues - dangerous AR: Arpad make buffers scalable ------------- Next meeting: Tuesday 07 mar 2006 12:00pm PT